Again, I would echo those remarks. There is room for all kinds of different models of enterprise. There are the traditional ones we know—small and large businesses. But it has become apparent to me, with the amount of interest in cooperatives around the table here today, together with the desire to know a lot more than the body of knowledge seems to be, that there is a great deal of understanding yet to be had about how cooperatives can complement existing business models and can in fact show an ethical alternative, in many cases.
I'll go back to my earlier remark. I'm not the sort of person who attacks capitalism for the sake of it, but certainly we've seen some horrible behaviour, especially in the financial industry over the past five or six years, that seems to be going on. And I think cooperatives do show....
You can have large enterprises as well. Look at Mondragon cooperative in Spain. I don't know if you know about the federation's bank, or Mondragon, but it is huge.
You can have a local day care. It's a very adaptable model that has an ethical basis. It supplies jobs and can create growth. And actually, small cooperative start-ups have a much better success rate for continuing over five years than normal small business start-ups do. So there's a lot to be learned. There's a lot to be gained.