I think co-ops are businesses at their core. So they need to access the same programs that businesses access.
But in addition to the whole business element that co-ops have, they also have this whole governance and social development and community development aspect. That's where we need to see specific supports to cooperatives to assist that kind of development. We've talked about and have heard from all the panellists about the needed extra supports for start-ups, whether it's because there's burnout and you need to find the right entrepreneur, the right champion to champion your project.... There are all kinds of dynamics at play when you're working in a group and trying to develop a collective enterprise. So that's something in addition to what I think co-ops need to be able to access. And they need to be able to access existing business programs, as well, absolutely.