All right. I thank you for that clarification.
I want to go back to a witness statement that we heard last week. We heard from the Hollow Water First Nation in Manitoba. A woman who was our witness said:
There was a time when it was okay for women to be treated in that way, to be physically abused, to be sexually abused and all that comes with that. My community had developed this attitude that women were to blame.
And she went on to talk about how the women in the community had made the decision to stand up and say that this was no longer acceptable. Can you tell me, in your experience, when that was acceptable? Across Canada, when was it acceptable? Is there a turning of the tide with this being discussed?