I'll try to be brief.
The problem is that this is the status of women committee. If we focus on punishing men or focus on the big-picture stuff, which should change—the inequality between men and women, the economic inequality, the sexual inequality, the sexual abuse of women by men, that should change, but it's going to take, as we know, a very long time. There's that level of needing to address those big-picture things. But at the lower level we need to focus on practical policy. As a political scientist, that's what I do.
What we've found is that if you institute a law like the Swedish law, which criminalizes men or anyone for buying sexual services but not the women, it has unfortunately not proven...and this is the police report. The police are the ones in Sweden who are complaining about this law. They say it hasn't helped. Instead of focusing on giving women more rights, it's focused on making them go in and find these men. There's no extra support for women.