Evidence of meeting #23 for Status of Women in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meetings.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dominic Monchamp  Sergeant Detective, Supervisor of Investigations Module (E.S.E.C.), Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children, Vice and Alcohol West, Montreal City Police Service
Shauna Paull  Member, Global Alliance Against Traffic in Women Canada

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

—because I might miss some.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

—on December 6th and December 13th, it gets the issue behind us. We could go from 3:30 to 6:30 and do two meetings and whatever we can fit in to the program. Making sure we have a balanced agenda of groups from a variety of sides on this issue would be helpful as well.

Ms. Smith.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Madam Chair, I know we have a member missing, and I'm very unhappy about that, because Ms. Davidson really wants to be a part of this, but we have to be flexible too. As to December 6th, if we have two meetings, or the three meetings, then—I'll negotiate here—three meetings are just too much. With our members missing, it's not fair. To have two meetings on the 6th and the 13th to get this wrapped up is fine, as long as it doesn't take away from the human trafficking, because we have lots of time in the second.... The House doesn't sit, and we're doing things to present in the House, so that argument doesn't wash.

We have from when we get back until the spring to finish this off. But we passed a motion, so this would address compliance with the motion from Ms. Stronach.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

I think the consensus was that two meetings would be sufficient.

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

It's all we were asking for, anyway.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

The aim is two three-hour meetings with sandwiches, on December 6 and December 13. The analysts have indicated that they have someone else who is also going to be helping them, so this doesn't take away from the human trafficking report we're working on.

Is that agreed on?

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Madam Chair, those two meetings have to do with the witnesses we're asking to come.

Could the meeting for the GBA, though, with the officials, be on the 21st or the 22nd?

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

You'd like to move the GBA one to the 21st or the 22nd?

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Or the 28th.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Or the 28th.

Yes.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

With all due respect, Madam Chair, what we said is we can have two meetings. We can have the GBA and then one on the other issue and then bump the second one up until the spring. It's not a matter, Madam Chair—

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

No, no—

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Excuse me, Madam Chair, may I just have a minute to get my thoughts together?

What we're trying to do is to do this in a way such that we do the best possible job. What we're saying is that in the short time we don't have a big enough time span, so instead of doing it the other way, if we were to have two meetings between now and the end of December, one on the GBA and one on the other, and then bumped up another meeting, which goes very nicely with the economic kinds of things that we're doing leading to the spring, I think logically we would do a much better job of it this way.

Our members cannot make the Wednesday night; I'm very concerned about that. It's okay to say that not every member can make it, but it just so happens that our side of the House can't make it.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

If we're talking about postponing the GBA meeting and having a GBA meeting at.... We could do the GBA meeting in February when we come back.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Yes, we could.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Let's focus on completing our response to this motion and get it behind us. If December 6th and December 13th are two dates that work with the committee, we'll have two nights of hearings from 3:30 to 6:30 on those two nights, if that works for everybody. As to those it doesn't work for, we have an obligation to move on and get it done with and put it behind us.

Then when we come back in February, we could do the GBA.

Is that a suggestion that works?

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

The GBA in February is not good enough, I'm sorry.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay, suggest a date that works then.

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

I think Madam Mourani has a suggestion.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Or should I get the clerk to look for a date for the GBA meeting--separate? Have we all agreed on our Status of Women cuts? We'll do it December 6 and December 13, from 3:30 to 6:30.

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

That's fine.

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Could we do GBA on the 28th? Are there three meetings?

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Two meetings on Status of Women cuts. Then we will have a meeting on the GBA at another date.

Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON

Not in February. It's too long. How about the 28th?

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

On the GBA, what if I have the clerk circulate a memo to see if we can find a date for the gender-based analysis. I need a determination now.

Ms. Smith.