I think it has to be a combination. You cannot do just one. I mean, we don't have access to all the people.
I'm on an NGO-CIC immigration working group for separated children. I know that what's happening there is that they're just looking at refugees. They're not even considering victims of trafficking in their counts. The way they're counting those separated children is as the primary claimants in refugee claims. This is leaving a whole wide area not even counted. There's no way of checking.
Also, when people are met coming in with so-called relatives, friends, and so on, there's not always a check at the border on whether these people are really what they say they are.
I went to The Bay once in Vancouver to get a bathing suit, and a clerk there told me that they have this man who comes in, and he's very often with different young women. He seems to have a lot of nieces he's buying this skimpy clothing for. They're coming to him sort of as relatives, and nobody checks on it. It's a problem.
We also have in Vancouver the Honduran children and youth. It's a major problem. These children are still being criminalized as drug dealers, because they're in the drug industry. They have debt bondage, and of course the question of consent for children should never even be considered.
So it's a problem.