I want to start off with Ms. Landolt.
I want comment first, Ms. Landolt, about your disparaging tone when you talked about LEAF as if they are....and your comment about what have they done. You may be aware of the rape shield law. Without their work, that would not have happened for women in this country. You may be aware of the fact that aboriginal women were not being recognized for the Canada Pension Plan at one point, even though they worked on reserves, but they now are able to receive it. You may have heard of the fact that immigrant women were not being given English as a second-language training up until the late 1980s because it was assumed that women were not going to work anyway, so why did they need language training to get settled in this country. It was only going to men. It was only as a result of the charter challenges program, which is another program that's gone...but never mind. Those are just some. I'm not going to go through the whole list of what they have accomplished. I just want to let you know that the advocacy and the work that organization has done for women over the years has been absolutely humongous and very valuable.
I want to ask you something. As I said, the immigrant women at one point, without advocacy and without an actual charter challenge--which I was involved with at that point, with LEAF--would not have actually received English as a second language. The government would not have conceded this, backed off, and provided it. Since you object to funding for advocacy, and you say in your presentation you do services for immigrant women, how would you be able to assist in that situation? What would you have done?