When you mentioned that research drives the advocacy that drives the policy, I'd also say that the research is connected to the women who are doing the work. We know that we need both the research and the policy, but we need to speak to that policy with the women. That's the other component. I'd say there's a third component that needs to be there. To be able to do that, you need to be talking to the right people. I would say that what I've felt in my experiences that have been positive experiences in lobbying would be having the opportunity to speak one on one and feel like you're speaking on the same level.
I'll just touch upon the regional offices for that. I'm in Montreal, and I'm privileged to be in Montreal. I would say that it's so essential to be able to talk to those people in those offices. We're always talking. In the jobs that we're doing it's political all the time. And that's something we've also learned from the work on the ground. We can be providing services and working with women and finding solutions up the yingyang, but if we don't work on the lobbying and the policy side and have the opportunity to sensitize and talk with decision-makers and make the changes, nothing will change and equality won't happen.
So having access to people is so important. And that's where I draw in that regional office piece. It's so important to have people to talk the hard talk with.