Thank you. I wasn't chatting. My colleague and I were sharing different pieces of information here, so I didn't mean to insult the presenters.
In any case, I have a lot of questions, and a lot of the information I do understand with respect to the immigrant and visible minority women's.... Both organizations have been very familiar to me, of course, for many years.
Let me start with Ms. Lucya.
There are a lot of aspects I want to get at, but one of them, in particular. You earlier mentioned the average and the median incomes, and you were talking about immigrant families. I think you said $28,000 was the median, but then it was much lower, at $23,000, for certain immigrant families. This brings me to a question of how we try to help families.
Under the most recent child credit, for instance, if you're making $35,000 and up, you get the $310, but below that you don't. It's peanuts, and then it goes down lower, so you actually miss out. So are you telling me today that in essence the majority of immigrant families, a very large number anyway, are not going to benefit from that?