So they can, in a way, transfer that benefit to someone else. Is that it? It's not necessarily universal. If someone doesn't need that particular benefit, it somehow can be moved to someone else who is in need? Am I getting the point?
Anyway, I'll have a look at the blues after the meeting. I appreciate it. I did want to hear from Madame Harris again, and I'd appreciate that. We haven't heard too much from you this afternoon, so perhaps we could give her 30 seconds.