Thank you, Madam Chair.
I think that basically we all want the same thing. We want to be able to move forward on this matter that we have been told is very important, to make sure that everyone has a piece of the pie.
I certainly feel that we must consult with the Department of Finance. But in order to properly consult, I like Ms. Minna's idea. I do not have the tools to understand the implications and the repercussions that different measures could have on different groups in society, men, women, children. I do not have the tools to do that, but there are experts who do. I think that we would learn a lot if each party were to call an expert of its own choosing. It would not really be partisan, because they would be people who would help us to better understand the complexity of these matters.
When we heard the witnesses' statements on Monday, we saw that it is not easy to understand. But we have an obligation to understand as much as we can. Perhaps a lot is already being done and we do not realize it because it is not immediately obvious. But if we do not have experts to guide us, it is going to be difficult for us to see where we are and where we want to go.
I agree with Ms. Minna's recommendation. I would like the Department of Finance to show us what it has done, how it did it, and for people there to tell us, yes or no, what has been done and what has not been done.
Then we would be in a better position to know where to go and how to get there. It is not going to help us to hear from dozens of witnesses who are going to tell us the same things. We will be no further ahead in March or April. We know that it will take some years before gender-based budgeting is done at every level.