Yes. I'll try to be brief.
I can assure you in terms of the role of the champion that it doesn't just reside with one person. It should, in fact, live beyond one person or live beyond the champion. I think it's the role of policy advice, and I would say the same thing as Mr. Wild, that essentially you want to embed it in your organization so that it becomes part of a very robust dynamic challenge function that PCO should be playing and asking tough questions, along with Status of Women Canada.
The role of champion is just to make sure that officers have the tools they need. We have actually incorporated this as part of our training program, our learning plans for PCO policy officers working on policy proposals coming forward. In that sense, it has become embedded as part of the regular training for new PCO officers. It's in our materials that we provide to them on how you perform a challenge function, the kinds of questions you have to ask of a department in terms of who's leading on the policy process.
So, as I say, it has to live beyond the champion. The champion is just there to make sure the tools are there, and that can actually provide the leadership.