Surely you don't want the GBA training we have seen evidence of here, so I wouldn't get your knickers in a knot about the fact that the deputy minister hasn't had GBA training.
I think what this committee is in the process of doing is talking about what good and effective gender budget analysis would look like; once you have that, then insist on everybody having it. But I wouldn't want my deputy minister spending a minute being trained on how to do this sort of stuff. I don't find it useful.
It is comprehensive—somebody spent a lot of time on it—but it's not answering the larger questions: are we making progress on gender equality; are we actually reducing the vulnerability of women; are we enhancing women's economic independence? This doesn't speak to any of that, not one line of it. So whereas people are doing what they were told to do—whereas they're doing more than what they were told to do, according to the deputy minister—I wouldn't want that kind of training as part of what we say we're doing.