Thank you, and thank you so much for being here.
I want to pick up on a couple of things.
I asked the deputy minister about his GBA training; he didn't have any. It seems to me that this is at the centre of things. We've talked about the fact that the civil service advises, but the policy direction comes from ministers and from the government.
Should ministers have GBA training? Do we need to have the minister here and to ask the questions we've been asking? We haven't had a whole lot of answers that help.