Only if people are listened to. I know non-governmental organizations that have made presentation after presentation after presentation and have said the same thing for years and years and years to pre-budget committees, and there's no evidence that anybody heard anything they said. It's a huge frustration.
I think that is changing, but it's still a lot of work. I think very often people in different parts of government speak really different languages. Sometimes the finance people and the social people and the bureaucrats and the public have a hard time understanding each other.