Thank you, Madam Chair.
Good afternoon to both of our witnesses here today. It's terrific to have you both here--and tuned in, Dr. Bartle--from university.
I'm going to put the following question to both of you, if I can, for a couple of minutes. Hopefully there will be a little bit of time left at the end. It might seem like a simple question, but we're undertaking a study on gender budgeting. We have so far had a glimpse of what that process would be like.
I wonder what you would best describe as what should be the desired outcome of gender budgeting. What is it we're actually trying to do as a matter of public policy? How will we know when we've arrived, and that our budgeting process has achieved what we set out to do?
I'll go first to Madam Russell and then Dr. Bartle.