Thank you, Professor Russell.
Thank you, Mr. Stanton. I gave you two more minutes.
The chair would like to take a privilege before I go to the next questioner.
I'm not closing this; I asked the witnesses if they have a time constraint, and they said no.
The questions I've heard have been very good, but I want to ask you this.
Professor Russell's area of research has been the federal budget, forecasting, analysis, etc., and Dr. Bartle is the director of a school of public administration. Both of you have given us an analysis of what is required--the government, the civil society. I'm sure in the western world, government and civil society and the political environment are ripe for this, but what do we have to do next?
Professor Russell, you stated that a paper should be prepared. But when we are doing a budget consultation--every government does a budget consultation--which groups should we invite?
If both of you could answer that question, the chair's privilege will be gone, and then I'll go to Ms. Minna.