Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you to all who have come here. I appreciate your presenting your information to this committee.
I have many, many questions, so I will try to be brief and I would appreciate it if your responses were brief.
I'm going to begin by addressing my first question to Mr. Olsen and Mr. Farrell, but certainly Madame Carbonneau and Madame Casara, if you want to add to the responses, I'd be very pleased about that.
One of the things that are concerning me at this point is the understanding about how collective bargaining works. We keep hearing that pay equity should be part of collective bargaining, yet trade unions have been very clear that pay equity is a human right, as defined by the United Nations. It's a human right according to CIDA. A human right cannot be bargained away.
If we make pay equity part of collective bargaining, would it not do precisely that? In collective bargaining, you're looking at pay, benefits, pensions, all kind of things. How can you possibly lump a human right in with those things?