I think that's what I was trying to say: we feel that if we have a union negotiating, then we can be pretty sure of our salary and our health.
My next question is why you feel pay equity does not belong in a union. When we are the first to say that our salary and our health benefits are very assured and we can be guaranteed the justice of these things, why then are we so hesitant to put pay equity in there and consider that an important part of what we are asking to have? Why do we not feel that we're going to get the justice and the...? I feel that when I sign a contract, my contract includes all that is beneficial to me, and I would feel that pay equity would be one of those things. So I feel that by taking pay equity out of our union and out of our negotiations, we are saying it is something that is not as important as the other things; therefore, I don't see it the same way as you do. By taking pay equity out, we have to fight, then, and we seem to be wanting to have this fight, whereas if we put it in our negotiations and left it there, the same way as we have all our other benefits, we could be guaranteed that they're there. So I don't understand why we're taking them out just to make an issue. We could put it i in our negotiations and leave it there, and only fight when it comes about that we're not getting it. That's what I see.