Thank you, Madam Chair.
I'd like to also thank the witnesses.
I guess what I want to do is to give two examples, and I would really appreciate comments from all of the panel in terms of what these examples might mean and what we can learn from them.
My first example comes from my work with an aboriginal community in the 1980s. At that time, they brought up Red Seal training to the community. There was child care available that the band was running. They actually had significant construction opportunities and there were a few women who had uptake of this particular program and continued to work within their community. This was significant construction that lasted for years. There was also cultural sensitivity within that example because it was a band-run project. I don't know if the government shifted away from that kind of model in the 1990s. I don't know what happened, but it's quite discouraging to hear that we're no further ahead. That's sort of my first example. I'm not sure if it was successful. It sounded like it should have had all the features of success.
My second example is that I believe at the time—or maybe it was ten years earlier, and Madam Fry might be able to comment—in medical schools, we had a really disproportionate male-to-female ratio. Of course that's turned around, so I guess in that one example, something happened so that it became much more proportionate and appropriate. In the other example, I don't know what happened because I'm not sure.
I'd really love to hear your thoughts about why one didn't continue to grow, because the goals were the same at the time. It's a puzzle to me, so I'd really like your insight.