There has been some uptake and interest. I think the positive side has largely come from bigger companies. We have a lot of small and medium-sized companies in Canada, particularly in the trades area. To ask a small or medium-sized company to undertake something like a checklist of strategies.... We had a session with managers and owners of companies in Saskatchewan, and I have to be frank with you and tell you we had quite a mixed response from them. They're trying to get their bottom line to be black. It's what I said earlier, that diversity is a problem for them.
What we're trying to do is work with them, because often it's things they may not be aware of, some kind of exclusion behaviour, that kind of thing. But I think there is some openness, though I think right now, particularly small and medium-sized companies are struggling to survive, struggling to keep the small number of employees they have, so it's very challenging, even with some of the larger companies. We have found some very positive response among selected individuals. So it's yes and no.