It's not my seminar; it's a symposium being put on by the Construction Sector Council. I don't want to speak for them, but I would suggest that the clerk or Madam Fry or even you yourself could call them and ask them for more information. They have a draft date, and I believe they're trying to do exactly what we're talking about here. I've let the cat out of the bag a little bit because they haven't announced it yet, but I made phone calls before I came here. It is in the sector council that employers and labourers sit and deal with HRSDC on a trilateral basis.
Maybe we can request more information from them through the committee.