Thank you very much.
I'm going to open it up for discussion, but before I do so, because many people are new to the committee and were not here just before the last session, we had the minister speak to the issue of gender-based analysis. She suggested at that time—this is just for information—that she was not responsible for responding to the finance department, HRSDC, or the decisions of Treasury Board, and that those should come from the ministers themselves. We asked those ministers to come to explain, and neither minister came. They all had very plausible reasons for not turning up, but we still never got the answers. So in case someone says to call the ministers, I would like to point out that was done.
Mr. Van Kesteren.