Right.
I think the concept of having a defined benefit pension plan that private sector employers could participate in and would be transferable would be a great thing for Canada. Most of us want to know that when we retire from work it doesn't fall solely on our individual shoulders but that there has been a collective investment in the future of workers so that all workers can retire with dignity and with some knowledge that they're going to have financial stability in their old age, and there are large, large pension plans.