Dave, I accept what you're saying and I think we've all heard what you have to say. I don't believe that anywhere in this motion did a particular member's name come up, so I really don't wish to speak to particular members in this forum right now. I think it begins to move it into a totally different direction.
The motion itself has been ruled out of order. What you have said is duly noted, and we will now move on.
There being no other business for the day, I would like to.... I'm sorry; go ahead, Madame Demers.