I can appreciate the issues around people who pay in, but I really struggle with where we go with the self-employed. This is not about maternity benefits; this is about our unemployed denominator. I know the Canadian Federation of Independent Business doesn't want to be paying into this kind of system. They clearly said—was it Corinne Pohlmann?—they would rather be using that money in other ways.
With respect to self-employed people who clearly are indicating they don't want to participate in the system, I struggle with including them in our statistics and including that whole piece around self-employed.
I'd appreciate comments in that area.