That leads us back to the thing we talked about. What's the role of the federal government to be a coordinator, put best practices out there, and do that kind of stuff?
Could any of you talk about the issue of the systemic violence outside of the community and the discrimination—the way society treats aboriginal people and systemic violence against aboriginal women as something that you shouldn't care about because it's just aboriginal women; they're used to that; that's the nature of the beast, you know? That's something that's a huge piece we're hearing as well.
You seem to be doing a lot of good work, Sheila, in terms of that train-the-trainer thing, because you're doing small practical steps that take the women back and train and teach and try to give that empowerment to the women in the community. You say you're working on male empowerment too. Is there anything else, other than those very practical things that one can do to deal with the whole concept? I know discrimination against aboriginal people is rampant in our society and in all of the Americas. Are there any suggestions you have of what could be done?
I mean, prevention and education is a huge feat, so should there be an education program, do you think, for non-aboriginal people to learn and put aboriginal people into a different place, other than this stigma that's attached to being an aboriginal person, this throw-away idea of aboriginal women—the stigma that you don't need to worry about them, they're just not worthwhile?
Do you see the need for some kind of national...?