Okay. I'm not really sure we're getting to the heart of what I'm trying to get to.
Madame Archambault, you spoke about this as well. You talked about gratifying work. What does gratifying work look like within the aboriginal community and within the aboriginal context as far as the skills they need are concerned?
What skills do they need in order to have that gratifying work? You talked about being integrated into society.
Madame Brassard, you spoke about being integrated into society. What does that look like within the aboriginal context?