Thank you very much.
My question is to you, Mr. Durber, because you've been a consultant on pay equity in the public sector.
I was a little confused about the questions being posed, because in my understanding, pay equity means you are paid equally for the work that you do, whether you're a junior draftsman or a senior draftsman. If I'm a partner in a law firm, what I make is equal to what another male partner makes. That's the premise. It doesn't relate to whether you're at the entry level or the top level--there will always be a difference--but it's everyone in a profession.
In the public sector, how many visible minorities are there? Do you have any idea? We understand that visible minorities are always paid less than whatever, so could you comment on that?