Excuse me, Ms. Simson. We will table the motion until after this round, because it's out of order now. We have witnesses and it's not appropriate for them to be here when we debate a motion.
The second round is for five minutes. Again, questions and answers are included.
We will begin with, for the Liberals, Ms. Neville, but before Ms. Neville begins and before you set the clock, Clerk, I just wanted to suggest that Ms. Leclerc made it very clear what she could answer from her department. I think we should therefore ensure that if we wish to get responses from the two witnesses from CIDA, we should be asking them questions pertaining to CIDA and CIDA's language and agenda, rather DFAIT's, which they cannot answer because they're not from DFAIT.
I just wanted to comment on that if you want answers. Thank you.