Okay.
We know about the residential schools and the violence and the abuse that happened. This was carried on and brought home to the communities.
In our recent interview with the Ontario Provincial Police...domestic violence is still occurring, and most of these incidents are related to alcohol. We figure that one out of every seven women has suffered violence, and these are reported incidents. For the unreported incidents, the number is even more--one out of every five or maybe one out of every four women suffer from violence.
As to the extent of the violence and who suffers, we know that the male usually goes to jail. We're saying it's male and female. There are also same-sex relationships, and some of those incidents are also part of these numbers, but not too many.
Women end up going to a shelter out of town--this is the scenario--and when they come back home, they are either with their kids or sometimes without their kids, because the kids will get taken by the children's aid services. That's what they're saying. Sometimes when the woman has to leave the community because of violence, the children are taken into care by Tikinagan. When this happens, sometimes the extended family gets involved and sometimes even the chief and council get involved. It affects the whole community.
The children basically have no support, and the spouse may also have relatives on the chief and council. So this happens....