I mentioned children being in care. It takes a long time for a woman to get her children back, and a lot of times she can't. If she tries to go for legal services, the chief is usually a member of that board, so she can't go for legal help that way. A lot of lawyers in the area sometimes service that community, so most of the time the woman won't be able to do anything. That's what I'm saying about the....
Then there are the policies around the children in care. They want to keep the children in the community, and that's where the leadership gets involved. But it means that the women who may have to leave, or who want to leave, can't take their children with them.
So a lot of times the laws get in the way of children being able to be with their mothers.