But let's assume that we had some kind of strategy in terms of affordable housing, or a package where we could provide the housing. I guess I'm trying to get a sense, to my colleague Madame Demers, that....
Poverty, obviously, is one of the root causes, and that $8 jug of juice. If we have something like co-ops, with some form of ownership through CMHC, which I happen to believe is a good resource, how do we get past the jug of juice? How do we break the poverty even if we can provide the housing in these remote communities that, as I was stunned to hear from Mr. Rickford, cannot be accessed by road?