Absolutely not. It's absolutely backwards. We should be taking that money and reaching out to these women and giving them a chance. I think what we've heard, what I've heard, certainly, is that every time these women take a step forward, the rug's pulled out from underneath them, time and time again.
When we see them behind bars, it's the same stories we hear, and it doesn't matter whether they come from remote communities or right here in Thunder Bay or from southern Ontario. They have been battered and beaten. It just keeps going on and on again, and at a certain point some of them are even charged with domestic violence themselves because they're just so sick and tired of it. I'm sick and tired of it, so I could imagine how they feel.