No, no, I understand. It's just sort of the same irrational kind of policy. People who need are denied for what seem to be rather arbitrary rules in some regards.
I have another question in regard to your policing. You have your own Nishnawbe Aski police force, and one of the things that we heard in the process of our study is that for a lot of aboriginal women, social services and police services are not very helpful. In fact, they're very often judgmental and they re-victimize the women and families that they're supposed to help.
I wonder, in terms of the experience here in the Thunder Bay area, how your approach with your own police force helps the people involved.