I think some of the ones who are hired for construction jobs are paid less. They start on heavy equipment and are then moved to something else so that they'll be paid less. It's very difficult to keep women in those positions and to have them paid equitable wages.
For example, there was a lot of racism in the hydro project. The people who were hired were let go or the women who were hired were given more menial jobs.
I'll give you a very good example from when I first became a vice-president. I live in a tourism area. Grand Beach is one of the biggest beaches in Manitoba. I had to fight with our provincial government so that Métis women could get jobs other than janitorial and maintenance positions. We had to fight so that women could get jobs working at such things as the campground office and the gates. Transients, like the ones who came to work for hydro, would get the jobs. It was and it still is a real problem.
A lot of it is racism. For construction jobs, I don't know. I guess they still try to keep women down.