Thank you very much.
A little under five minutes are left, and I would like to ask a question of the panel.
It's recognized...and I think it's following up on Ms. Brown's question, the idea of women going into entrepreneurial jobs and going to banks. We know what banks have always said. I mean, some of the work done on indicators for women going into business is that banks have a gender neutral policy in which they require certain concrete pieces of chattel to lend money. It is well known that only certain women have the concrete pieces of chattel. Many women don't. So then they have to go to a male person, either the father or the brother or the uncle, to put up the piece of chattel for them.
We had brought forward, as the government of that day, something called women's enterprise centres, in which women could do the kind of microcredit that Ms. Demers was talking about. It was only for women to go to. It helped women to develop a work plan. It lent them tiny amounts of money if they wanted, and they didn't have to put up the usual chattel. They just had to have a good work plan, one in which the women's enterprise centres kind of shuffled them along.
Is that occurring still, and do you think that would be very helpful for aboriginal women?