Mr. Bartkus, I found your answer to my colleague Ms. Neville very interesting and I would like to continue along the same lines.
In the places we have visited, when there is a lot of racism in the police forces, one of the problems is also likely a lack of people, a lack of education and a lack of training. You said that you need more people and more training; more police officers, in fact, not more prisons.
You also talked about initiatives for people in custody, from the time they are taken into custody to the time they are convicted. Could you expand on that a little? Are you talking about restorative justice or community initiatives? Could you expand on that a little? Can you offer us any suggestions that we could use to make people and the police—say in Williams Lake or Prince Albert—understand that they would be much further ahead working with communities than against them?