Absolutely. We're having an independent evaluation done of this Touchstones of Hope project. I and many of my colleagues believe that being first nations is not enough. We have a fundamental responsibility to get it right and do it really well for our kids, even to a higher standard than non-indigenous communities.
What we're finding in these early days is that the visions of community we're seeing are much more aligned with the best evidence in child welfare than with the way child welfare is currently funded by the department or the way provincial child welfare statutes are done. We need to get back to a fundamental Canadian value that is shared, I think, among the political parties, which is that people at a grassroots level really know their families best. If we look to them as the experts and guides in the process, we're going to make the smartest investments as a country, and we're going to see bigger and more immediate payoffs at the level of the child--and that, member, is my measure. It's not how many announcements the government makes, how many handshakes I see, how many dollars are in the budget. It's what's happening with that child in that family. Are we making a difference as a country? That's the measure.