We've heard a lot about role models. I'll ask each of you this. Is there is no way that a role model can be effective if it's cross-gender?
When I was growing up--and I'm going to date myself--from the time I was 10 until I was 19, I wanted to be a lawyer because I used to love watching Perry Mason. That was a male role model. I didn't want to be the nurse on one of the hospital shows.
How much does that come into play? I'll ask each of you to quickly respond to that.