I think what you're pointing out is that we need to be able to create the atmosphere where, for example, we're encouraging young women to go into non-traditional work. I sit on the board of the Canadian Apprenticeship Forum. A few years ago, we did a study for equality-seeking groups about barriers to non-traditional work, to the apprenticeship trades. That information is available. The website that I just talked about is available.
A couple of years ago, the Ontario Federation of Labour had a very vibrant conference on women and non-traditional work, and this is about changing attitudes. I remember that one of the women who got up was an electrician. She talked about not just the discrimination she got from men, but also how when she went into a work site to work on something... In the particular case she raised, it was a bank, and the woman bank manager-- and we would celebrate the fact that there are women bank managers now--didn't believe that she could do the job and sent up a male teller, who didn't know anything about electrical work, to supervise her.
So we have a long way to go, sisters, on our work, and on our work with the men as well.
Tom, you get the last little bit.