On these lists to which Mr. Dufresne refers, the people on the lists have no official status within the waterfront. Official status within the waterfront occurs when an individual is issued what's called a registration number. So after they've gone through the recruitment process and the bit of training we've articulated, those people who are selected after that process are issued a registration number.
From this number you are paid, and from this number you start to gain and retain seniority, such as pensions, benefits, and the like. So once you have this number, you have status. It would be the equivalent, Ms. Mathyssen, if you were hiring for a position in your office, of taking in a bunch of resumes and applications, and then having someone tell you several years later that the next person you hired had to be off that list. That's simply beyond the pale, per se, from the perspective of having status; they simply don't.
That's what we dispute: that they don't have status. Besides which, the lists are full, as we mentioned, of relatives and full of family-status individuals, which essentially says that we can't go off them. We would just like a fair and equitable playing field and to start again in this process.