That's very much what we find. That stereotype is still widely held, which seems almost unbelievable. One of the biggest challenges we have is actually demonstrating the need for our work, because so many people think, you know, that we've been working on it for so many years, how could it not have changed.
There have been improvements. As I mentioned, certainly within some fields of science and health-based fields, such as medicine, women have made significant advances. Unfortunately, that hasn't been as much the case in engineering and computer science careers.
When we get them in grade three, some of them already have that stereotype unless they've had a mom or an aunt or a dad who has turned them on to that.