I'm very sorry to say that a lot of immigrant and refugee boys are in trouble with the law. In my work we are often sent to testify or represent parents at the mental health justice committee.
In Ottawa, if you're 18 and under and commit something, other than probably severely injuring somebody, and you come from a situation where there might have been war trauma and torture, this particular board, which has a psychiatrist on it, can kind of defer your incarceration into the—