I would simply like to say this.
It's not about the intention; it's about having the right facts, and we're asking all our witnesses to provide background facts. Maybe it would be interesting—and this has nothing to do with the Canadian Labour Congress or anything else—to find out what level of managers receive the kind of training the school offers, or other kinds of training. Maybe the higher up you go, they receive training from outside actors.
I do think the statement that was made earlier really doesn't add to the kind of recommendation we should be making, but I agree with Ms. Bateman that we need the right kind of information, and I think the analyst could provide the right kind of information, based on doing broader research with regard to training managers in the public service.