Unfortunately, the incidences of sexual harassment are delicate, obviously, for many people to come forward with them, and the data is often challenging to come by, but one thing we've heard from many witnesses is that in workplaces where there is greater awareness and training, not only might there be a likelihood of there being less harassment, but people also feel more comfortable to come forward.
One of the things we've noted is that in the area of sexual harassment, it would be important to have maybe even Status of Women, which obviously has a vested interest in seeing women in the federal service be better off, take that kind of leadership in coming up with that kind of data. As you point out, in terms of the data and the ability to mark the correlations, and to take action accordingly, that capacity is just simply not there, unfortunately.
Does the Canada School of Public Service have certain mechanisms put in place to measure the effectiveness of your training with respect to harassment?