They brought in three of our senior human rights representatives—there were also representatives from the RCMP, their human rights specialists, and we work closely with the Canadian Forces as well—to help them learn from the things we're doing within our workplace.
I think there's an opportunity to do a lot more, on occasion. There are some idea-sharing forums, but I think there probably could be more.
In terms of PSAC and CUPW, through their collective agreements there are appendices just on human rights. We do have joint policy discussions with them, which are very beneficial in terms of making improvements to our policies, to our preventative programs. Also, as we said, they help us deliver the training.