Evidence of meeting #79 for Status of Women in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was organization.
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NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
We'll have a recorded division, then.
I will ask the clerk to reread the motion, and then we'll have the recorded division.
The Clerk of the Committee Mrs. Marlene Sandoval
We have to deal with Ms. Truppe's motion to adjourn the debate. That is the matter we have to vote on.
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
My apologies.
We will now vote on Ms. Truppe's motion that the debate be adjourned. If the motion carries, we then have to vote on Ms. Sgro's motion.
We are now going to vote on Ms. Truppe's motion that the debate be adjourned.
NDP
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
It will be a recorded vote for this one first.
Madam Clerk, you may proceed with the vote.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Madam Chair, just to clarify, does the motion not take precedence over the adjournment?
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
Ms. Truppe's motion that the debate be adjourned is in order. Therefore, we will vote on that motion.
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
Madam Clerk, you may go ahead with the vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 4)
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
I'm being told that, because Ms. Truppe's motion carried, we can't debate Ms. Sgro's motion; the reason is that the debate has been adjourned. We will have to resume the debate another time.
Ms. Sgro, what just happened prevents me from allowing the committee to debate or vote on your motion. You still have—
NDP
François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC
Madam Chair, I realize that you made your decision after consulting with the clerk. But this is the first time I've ever heard that we can't vote on a motion that is on the agenda because the proceedings are in camera. I believe Ms. Truppe's motion was for us to move in camera, was it not?
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
That's not what it was, Mr. Choquette. I'll just clarify things so you fully understand what's happening now. Ms. Sgro put forward a motion. Ms. Truppe put forward another motion, which was to adjourn the debate. Her motion was in order, we voted on it, and it carried. That compels us to adjourn the debate on Ms. Sgro's motion. We can no longer discuss or vote on that. It was not a motion to move in camera; it was a motion to adjourn the debate.
Ms. Hughes, did you have another question?
NDP
Carol Hughes NDP Algoma—Manitoulin—Kapuskasing, ON
Yes.
I just wanted to clarify something. The vote we had was on adjournment of the debate on the motion. Now should we not be voting on the motion itself?
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
Unfortunately not, because that brought the debate to a complete halt. The clerk confirmed that the rules compel us to stop the debate entirely. The clerk told me that the vote has to be held after the debate. And since there was no debate, we can't hold a vote.
Ms. Sgro, did you have a comment on the same topic?
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Now that the debate has been adjourned, my motion will be on the floor at the next meeting of our committee.
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
If you wish, you can put forward your motion again. It hasn't completely disappeared.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
We have not voted on my motion. We've adjourned the debate, so my motion was not dealt with at all.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
It would automatically be there the next time we convene our meeting.
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
It's not automatic. It would be up to you to move your motion again before the committee. Your motion was not—
Liberal
NDP
The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe
The debate on your motion was adjourned. The motion wasn't defeated, but someone on the committee has to request that we resume the debate on that motion. A committee member has to make that request, whether it's you or someone else, in order to resume that debate.