When we're talking about the financial abuse issue, whether it's through abuse of the power of attorney or just abuse of a bank account, how do you get into nursing homes and retirement homes with this kind of information? It's a very delicate thing.
I suspect that there's probably a huge amount of what we would term financial abuse going on, yet you can't.... One of the witnesses we had the other day was suggesting that there was a particular clause in Bill C-13 involving the banks that they had some concerns about. You don't want to take away the independence of an individual, and usually it's family involved. I think we're caught, in some ways, in trying to help and trying to protect them from themselves. Sometimes they don't want to be protected and helped either, yet we call it...and it is financial abuse in many ways. It's very difficult to help everybody.