I'd really like to make it a figure that is not a figure of discussion anymore. I would like the right people to get the job, which means we're not talking about that as a gender issue anymore. We have qualified candidates. The right people are on the job and that's men and women.
It makes good sense. It makes good business sense. We're beyond talking about whether or not it needs to happen. It must happen and businesses that do it show stronger outcomes. That business case has been made. It really is in their favour.
Change is hard and it's slow, but I'm an eternal optimist. I believe we will get there, but I also think that we have to agitate to get there.